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		<title>By: Charles Flemming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Flemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if I should even be posting in this conversation since I&#039;m an absolute noob in web design. However, I have 20+ years in graphic design for print. I&#039;ve gone from Pagemaker to Quark to Indesign.

Because of the changing marketplace and evolving technologies I am aggressively moving toward web design to make a living. I&#039;ve gone through every Dreamweaver, Fireworks, and Flash tutorial I can get my hands on.

I love Fireworks. One thing I wish it would do:

Give us the ability to import raster images the way Indesign does, as a link, rather than embedded. That way we can resize, etc. in a non-destructive fashion. Recently a client had me enlarge most of the photos on his website. I had to replace them because they no longer had the resolution they needed in order to be enlarged. A simple link would have solved that. Another benefit would be an easier way to crop the images (rather than pasting on a mask, which seems counterintuitive to me--I either want to import the image through a frame or else paste it INTO a shape). 

I&#039;d also like to have the ability to use the same keyboard commands in Fireworks (and Flash) that I use in Illustrator and Indesign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if I should even be posting in this conversation since I&#8217;m an absolute noob in web design. However, I have 20+ years in graphic design for print. I&#8217;ve gone from Pagemaker to Quark to Indesign.</p>
<p>Because of the changing marketplace and evolving technologies I am aggressively moving toward web design to make a living. I&#8217;ve gone through every Dreamweaver, Fireworks, and Flash tutorial I can get my hands on.</p>
<p>I love Fireworks. One thing I wish it would do:</p>
<p>Give us the ability to import raster images the way Indesign does, as a link, rather than embedded. That way we can resize, etc. in a non-destructive fashion. Recently a client had me enlarge most of the photos on his website. I had to replace them because they no longer had the resolution they needed in order to be enlarged. A simple link would have solved that. Another benefit would be an easier way to crop the images (rather than pasting on a mask, which seems counterintuitive to me&#8211;I either want to import the image through a frame or else paste it INTO a shape). </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to have the ability to use the same keyboard commands in Fireworks (and Flash) that I use in Illustrator and Indesign.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; What role does Fireworks play in your workflow? 

Immense! :-) Fireworks is my graphic design tool of preference. I don&#039;t understand why some prefer Photoshop for graphic design for Web. Fireworks is faster, it&#039;s easier to mock up projects for websites in it, it&#039;s easier to produce the final design, it is an excellent tool for all kind of designs &lt;em&gt;for screen&lt;/em&gt;, it opens almost perfectly PSD files, it has the perfect blend of vector+bitmap tools (something that Ps or Ai will maybe never achieve), live effects, pages, layers, intuitive interface (Ps&#039;s interface is still very bad, IMHO, in terms of usability), in a word: this is a program that I cannot live without! :-)

I use it for graphic design for Web, for logo design, for quickly editing photographs, for almost all of my design work...

Only for print design would I use Ps or Ai. All other tasks are for Fireworks. Since I started to use Fireworks (Fireworks MX), I never looked back. And I never quite learned Ps - I didn&#039;t need to! :-)))

&gt; Where do you find the value of Fireworks and it’s integration with Creative Suite and other Adobe design and development tools?

In a perfect world, Fireworks would integrate 100% with Flash, Ai and Ps. Thus, a file created in one of these three programs could be imported into Fw and then back, without losing vectors or effects or anything... :-)

In a more perfect world, Fireworks PNG format could be opened by Ps and Ai, without any losses, too :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; What role does Fireworks play in your workflow? </p>
<p>Immense! <img src='http://www.adobe.dougwinnie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Fireworks is my graphic design tool of preference. I don&#8217;t understand why some prefer Photoshop for graphic design for Web. Fireworks is faster, it&#8217;s easier to mock up projects for websites in it, it&#8217;s easier to produce the final design, it is an excellent tool for all kind of designs <em>for screen</em>, it opens almost perfectly PSD files, it has the perfect blend of vector+bitmap tools (something that Ps or Ai will maybe never achieve), live effects, pages, layers, intuitive interface (Ps&#8217;s interface is still very bad, IMHO, in terms of usability), in a word: this is a program that I cannot live without! <img src='http://www.adobe.dougwinnie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I use it for graphic design for Web, for logo design, for quickly editing photographs, for almost all of my design work&#8230;</p>
<p>Only for print design would I use Ps or Ai. All other tasks are for Fireworks. Since I started to use Fireworks (Fireworks MX), I never looked back. And I never quite learned Ps &#8211; I didn&#8217;t need to! <img src='http://www.adobe.dougwinnie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))</p>
<p>&gt; Where do you find the value of Fireworks and it’s integration with Creative Suite and other Adobe design and development tools?</p>
<p>In a perfect world, Fireworks would integrate 100% with Flash, Ai and Ps. Thus, a file created in one of these three programs could be imported into Fw and then back, without losing vectors or effects or anything&#8230; <img src='http://www.adobe.dougwinnie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In a more perfect world, Fireworks PNG format could be opened by Ps and Ai, without any losses, too <img src='http://www.adobe.dougwinnie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt Heerema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Heerema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fireworks is my primary graphic editing tool for Web design.  Between it and a good text editor (or IDE), it&#039;s all I use for Web dev, with the occasional excursion into Illustrator for logo work.  However, Fireworks&#039; handling of vectors makes it such that I really don&#039;t even need to do that very frequently.

IMO - Fireworks is the ultimate web design tool.

Graphics creation -&gt; exporting optimized graphics with slices, and then hand-coding HTML and CSS to make those images live.

-matt heerema
principal designer
Weblogs, Inc. (AOL / Mediaglow)
engadget.com, autoblog.com, joystiq.com, tuaw.com, downloadsquad.com, etc....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fireworks is my primary graphic editing tool for Web design.  Between it and a good text editor (or IDE), it&#8217;s all I use for Web dev, with the occasional excursion into Illustrator for logo work.  However, Fireworks&#8217; handling of vectors makes it such that I really don&#8217;t even need to do that very frequently.</p>
<p>IMO &#8211; Fireworks is the ultimate web design tool.</p>
<p>Graphics creation -&gt; exporting optimized graphics with slices, and then hand-coding HTML and CSS to make those images live.</p>
<p>-matt heerema<br />
principal designer<br />
Weblogs, Inc. (AOL / Mediaglow)<br />
engadget.com, autoblog.com, joystiq.com, tuaw.com, downloadsquad.com, etc&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are essentially a Flex development shop with some associated web clients and Fireworks is our graphics tool of choice. We do some logo work using Illustrator and only use Photoshop for image manipulation, otherwise all of our prototyping, creation of flex components and GUI production graphics is all done in Fireworks. (CS4).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are essentially a Flex development shop with some associated web clients and Fireworks is our graphics tool of choice. We do some logo work using Illustrator and only use Photoshop for image manipulation, otherwise all of our prototyping, creation of flex components and GUI production graphics is all done in Fireworks. (CS4).</p>
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		<title>By: Webhost Deals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webhost Deals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, I use Fireworks as my secondary photo editing tool. I still use photoshop as my primary tool. To be honest I have not really look into Firework before. I use photoshop just that, this is the first photo editing software I come across and so I start learning to use it. After time, I&#039;ve already used to it and it&#039;s difficult (and lazy perhaps) for me to switch to other software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, I use Fireworks as my secondary photo editing tool. I still use photoshop as my primary tool. To be honest I have not really look into Firework before. I use photoshop just that, this is the first photo editing software I come across and so I start learning to use it. After time, I&#8217;ve already used to it and it&#8217;s difficult (and lazy perhaps) for me to switch to other software.</p>
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		<title>By: kosmar</title>
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		<dc:creator>kosmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use fireworks to sketch, layout, design and produce websites. i cannot understand people still using photoshop for any of these tasks.
i also like to sketch logodesigns in fireworks.

both usecases have suffered a lot from new bugs introduced with fwcs4. the textbox jumping bug is the most annoying one, effectivly reducing my productivity for at least 15% of time and 100% of mood.

the new font engine keeps my now from making fine text layout for logodesigns in fw, as kerning doesnt work as it used and should do. you just cant figure out a proper distance between two letters, if the only way you can manipulate the distance is while one of them is inverted by selction.
therefore, just two weeks after purchasing my copy, i am thinking strongly about switching back to fwcs3 despite losing the mentionable improvements to pages/frames, fontselection and styles features in cs4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use fireworks to sketch, layout, design and produce websites. i cannot understand people still using photoshop for any of these tasks.<br />
i also like to sketch logodesigns in fireworks.</p>
<p>both usecases have suffered a lot from new bugs introduced with fwcs4. the textbox jumping bug is the most annoying one, effectivly reducing my productivity for at least 15% of time and 100% of mood.</p>
<p>the new font engine keeps my now from making fine text layout for logodesigns in fw, as kerning doesnt work as it used and should do. you just cant figure out a proper distance between two letters, if the only way you can manipulate the distance is while one of them is inverted by selction.<br />
therefore, just two weeks after purchasing my copy, i am thinking strongly about switching back to fwcs3 despite losing the mentionable improvements to pages/frames, fontselection and styles features in cs4.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my OSX dock, I&#039;ve got the Creative Suite 4 apps all lined up according to the colours of the rainbow. If Fireworks was missing, the rainbow would be incomplete. Use of the yellow Fireworks icon represents 100% of the usefulness of Fireworks to me.

Like my colleague Natasha (above), I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my OSX dock, I&#8217;ve got the Creative Suite 4 apps all lined up according to the colours of the rainbow. If Fireworks was missing, the rainbow would be incomplete. Use of the yellow Fireworks icon represents 100% of the usefulness of Fireworks to me.</p>
<p>Like my colleague Natasha (above), I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - as a clarification to my previous comment, I don&#039;t do any html development, so pretty much anything Fireworks does for html doesn&#039;t interest me.

I&#039;m a Flex and Flash developer. Mocking up Flex apps in Fireworks is also a mystery to me. Why not just mock them up in Flex? Or Flash? I really just don&#039;t get it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; as a clarification to my previous comment, I don&#8217;t do any html development, so pretty much anything Fireworks does for html doesn&#8217;t interest me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Flex and Flash developer. Mocking up Flex apps in Fireworks is also a mystery to me. Why not just mock them up in Flex? Or Flash? I really just don&#8217;t get it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For years, I&#039;ve always had the most recent version of Fireworks sitting there on my computer. Every once in a while I fire it up and take a look. It seems ok, but I really don&#039;t get why I should be using it. 

As each new version comes along, I dutifully read the feature list yet nothing about it ever seems to offer me anything I need over and above what photoshop already offers. Fireworks always has been, and remains a mystery to me. 

As far as I&#039;m concerned, if it does something that photoshop doesn&#039;t do, the just stick it in photoshop. What&#039;s the point of having multiple graphix programs? This is one area where Adobe&#039;s strategy seems to be all of a muddle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years, I&#8217;ve always had the most recent version of Fireworks sitting there on my computer. Every once in a while I fire it up and take a look. It seems ok, but I really don&#8217;t get why I should be using it. </p>
<p>As each new version comes along, I dutifully read the feature list yet nothing about it ever seems to offer me anything I need over and above what photoshop already offers. Fireworks always has been, and remains a mystery to me. </p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, if it does something that photoshop doesn&#8217;t do, the just stick it in photoshop. What&#8217;s the point of having multiple graphix programs? This is one area where Adobe&#8217;s strategy seems to be all of a muddle.</p>
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		<title>By: David McGuigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>David McGuigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*To be clear, when clicking the .swf embedding the original .fla is what would actually open in the Flash context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*To be clear, when clicking the .swf embedding the original .fla is what would actually open in the Flash context.</p>
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